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The Inside Story about a new book about the man who redded cars to John Balushi on this expanded edition of Entertainment this Minute. Hello everybody, I'm Ron Henryd Redden. And I'm Jixie Wickwire. First to look at our ETM press release wire. Morgan Tiffany, one of the stars of TV's three of everything, is expanding her horizons with a musical stage act during her hiatus this summer. She'll be taking a show saluting the great vamps of the movies to clubs catering to homosexuals all over the country. Now to Trixie at the Featured desk. It's been almost three years since the late John Balushi last rented a car while in Los Angeles. But for Dempsey Norris, manager of the Hollywood branch of Rentabins, it seems like only yesterday. I always got a convertible, you know, you like this fun, EM, FM, cassette, you know, little concealable wet bot.

I mean, they always came back in pretty good shape, but, you know, I mean, Balushi, you know? Dempsey's having to cope with the crappings of success since his paperback account of dealing with Balushi, titled Hot Buyer, sold for a record two million dollars. And has already been bought by HBO for a mini series. But still, he's at his old sunset strip location, and he still likes writing to celebrities. It's a good pay, a good people, basically, you know, I mean, everybody gets into a little mischief now and again, although, you know, Lucy, that's something else again. Remember, he once brought a Mercedes back in beautiful SL, you know, black, with the ass trades with full human waste, you know? But still, no real trouble, you know, very nice young man. I could tell he was confused, though, you know, I mean, it's like one time he's tried to play for a car with the Ryder's gold car, you know, little things like that. Dempsey, Norris, a man with whom every star gets the brakes and the clutch run. Tomorrow, we join Anson Williams rehearsing for his Las Vegas debut.

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from KCRW, Santa Monica. From the home's turtle collection, the West's leading active archive of historic storylines, come tales of power, romance, and adventure in our nation's capital. These are Hellcats of the White House. Our story opens in London, where the president and Nancy are attending the economic summit

of leaders from America, Europe and Japan. In the bedroom of their London resident, the president is watching television. Nancy is trying to plug in her electric nail buffer. You know, mommy, it really is true. They are better actors over here. Just listen to the way this fella is talking. Yes, dear. Oh, by the way, how is the trip to the zoo? It was fine, dear. The animals send you there, bad. Oh, good. You know. What's the matter, mommy? I don't know, dear. It's not bad enough to have all these strange sockets. But I think the voltage is all haywire.

Yes, you know, Prime Minister Nakasoni told me he had a hell of a time getting his saber to work. He said he almost came to our first banquet with a five o'clock shadow. Yes. Of course, since the banquet wasn't until evening, I told him it would probably have been more of an eight o'clock shadow. Well, but, Ron, would you stop telling anecdotes? Come help me. Mommy, you, you know I'm no good at that stuff. Besides? Mr. President? Done. Hello, Mrs. Reagan. Hey. She seems upset. Oh, no. She's okay. Oh, good. Mr. President, I just wanted to give you a little post briefing before you lunch with the Prime Minister. Man, good. You know, she's determined to get something about the deficit into the final communique. Well, now that's what I thought you were going to take care of, done.

After all, there's a treasury secretary that would seem to be your job. Oh, well, sir, and all fairness to my self, I have spent the last two days lobbying like hell to keep specific language out of the communique. Not to mention eating the most unspeakable crap. But when push comes to shove, sir, the mocked has to stop with you. I mean, you know how tough she can be. No, no. It's just she can't seem to get her bupper started. Mrs. Fatter? No. I was thinking about Nancy. You don't know anything about English voted. Do you done? That's all right. Well, you go on with your business. No, it's okay. Let me take a look. Oh, this is the voltage, so I'm trying here, isn't it? I try it now. Well, I've got to change my clothes for the press conference.

Remember, sir, she's going to play hardball. I know, especially with unbuff nails. I would, yes, sir. Bye-bye, folks. Mommy, are you OK? Yeah. I'm OK. Oh, good. Is there anything I can do for you? No, Danny. It's all right. I'll wear gloves. Later that same day, the president and Nancy are sharing a private one, shirt number 10 downing street with the prime minister, and her husband, Dennis. So, this is Reagan.

I understand you had quite a jolly day at our zoo. Yeah, so I did, Mr. Satcher. It was quite lovely. I hope you didn't have any trouble with our animals. Oh, what do you mean? Well, some Americans can't understand them. The accent, you know. Yeah. Well, Mr. Satcher, I guess I can call you that. Yes, of course you can. Thank you. When your husband's blessed with the heck of a sense of humor, I must say. Yes, but it can grow quite tough from the performance of time. Can't it, Dennis? Yes, yes. You know, before we came over, Nancy and I heard all the usual stories about the English food. But this is quite good. What is it?

It's mutton pudding. One finds it fit into fine remarkably. It sure does. Mrs. Reagan, are you sure it's not too warm to blow? I don't know. It's never too warm to look your back. I'm grateful. Mr. President, perhaps it's time to speak frankly. One could think we're going to have to put something in the communicator about the impact of your high deficits on international interest rates. One means this is an economic summit. And one believes what's in public opinion expects us to take some stand on the key economic problem to which that is, if one may say so. Number one, Dennis, pass the state of all. There you go, dear. Careful, there'll look warm. Mrs. Satcher, I think guard bailors could well figure out some language that might talk about the problem in sort of an old general way without,

when without giving the Democrats back home a loaded gun to hold it at my temple, if you know what I mean. Same goal in one. You know, our impression over here is that you probably could win that election, even if you were to be found guilty of charm less than that. I say, Margaret, you are so drool. Dennis. Yes, well, things do seem to be going pretty well, I must say. But still, I don't think it would do any of us any good to all mentioned specific countries when referring to budget deficit. Well, you're the only country running up such huge ones at the moment when we think it might be somewhat disingenuous to pretend this is addressed to Italy and Durham. Well, that's kind of my point. I mean, everybody knows who you're talking about. You don't have to name names. Dennis, would you be so kind to pass me some of the bean pie? I can't get a grip on the platter.

Yes, of course. Although I should've got one of those gloves with actual fingers. Yes, well, I didn't anticipate certain accidents occurring and these were the only gloves that secret service people had with them. I should think 16 hours, am I correct? I don't know. Good, hi. You don't miss your standard. That does bring up a kind of a good point. Nancy's nail buffers probably a total loss thanks to the voltage problems in our room. It's a sort of expenditure I'd hate to see your public sector have to absorb. On the other hand, power deficits bad enough without our taxpayers having to replace a $400 personal care appliance. These are wax beans, aren't they? The way we cook them, yes. One grass pure drift, Ms. President, I'm sure we can arrive at language

at points to think of without actually directing it anywhere. Oh, that would be great. Just great. You see, Marmy, everything does work out. Yes, dear. But I'm worried about tonight. What do you mean? Well, I just don't think it's quite proper to dine with a clean wearing boxing gloves. No, one shouldn't worry. If one were you, Dennis can spend the afternoon finding you a muff. Yes, indeed I can. It would be my pleasure. NASA knew that the house would be just a ticket. Would you like to join me, Mrs. Reagan? I just might, Mr. Satcher. I just might. Does politics really stop at the water's edge? And if so, what is it that seems to float all the way over to the other side? Next time, rehearsing for re-nomination,

don't tell the cat of a white house. 40 years ago, this week, an incredible invasion took place on the beaches of Normandy. The anniversary of that day celebrated this week might well be called A.D. Day. Or it might not. In any case, the sum of observance of that fearsome military operation reminds us of a conflict in which right and wrong were so clearly defined that many have called it

the last good war. With the anniversary rhetoric from the Normandy sands still ringing in our newscasts, the voice of America salutes World War II, our war of the week. Like an eye club in the morning, you're the best and then, like a recently disinfected shithouse, you're clean round the bend. You get me the hottest, too bad to be true. All am I some others allows because of you. You put the shut in, shatter. Put the pain in Spain. Your germs are splattered about your face is just a stain. Your thirst and winnow rave are commonly known as a drag. Do us all a favor, here, wear this polythene back. You're like a dose of scabies.

I've got you on my skin. You make life a fairy tale. Grim, people mention murder. The moment you arrive, I'd consider killing you if I thought you were alive. You've got this slippery quality. It makes me think of flams and a dual personality. I hate both of them. Your bad breath, man, disease, destruction, and decay. Please, please, please, please, say yourself away. Like a death at a birthday party. You ruin all the fun. Like a suction spout, outsmarty, or no use to anyone. Like the shadow of the killer scene on a dead, consultive face, speaking as an outside. And what do you think of the human race? You went to a progressive psychiatric. It recommended suicide, because scratching your bad name

off his list and pointing the way outside. You hear laughter breaking through. It makes you want to fart. You're heading for a breakdown. Better pull yourself apart. What kind of creature bore you? Was it some kind of bat? They can't find a good word for you. But I can't twat. Doing comedy sketches about drugs, sex, and race may very well have been shocking in the 60s and 70s. And surprise may be one of the major ingredients of comedy. But these are the 80s, and few people connected with a new Saturday night live seemed to have any idea about where the 80s are headed. And that bothers them. Take Denny Billard, for example. But I don't know the 80s. I don't know what the 80s do. It's a problem for Joe Piscopo, who

reluctantly concedes. Maybe the show's dated, you know? Maybe doing drugs in sex five years ago was very hip. And very funny, but now it's like, oh, drugs, sex, and it gets pain getting handled on it. Getting a handle on the 80s is also a problem that faces Gilbert Godfrey. People have seen it all. They've seen it on Roto, and they've seen it on Calbernate. Everything that was once shocking. But shock is not the be-all and end-all of comedy, something that Ann Rizzley certainly realizes. You think that this group has been able to get a handle on the 80s? No. No, I think right now, it's such a nebulous time. Good morning. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, along our liquor, liquor line radio network, Chikern, from high atop the western sideline of the world's most beautiful indoor sports theater,

the house that Jerry bought, the fabulous forum, being spruced up and readied this time for Olympic basketball action less than a month away. And we just welcome you so much to our postseason liquor line broadcast. We'll be answering any questions you have about liquor line or the liquors or basketball in general or for that matter, the liquors. And Maggie Boone, Keith Harris, Susan Stratton, doing their usual fine job as well. Not with us today. Harry Newman, do we have any calls this morning? Good morning, Chik. We certainly do. Here's say a little Roger from Gardina, a liquor line. Great. Good morning, Roger. Buddy, how are you? Good morning, Chik. Hello. Hello. Keith Harris. Hello. Yes, hello, Roger. I can hear you. Can you hear me? Hello. Chik, these earphones just will not work. Can we do something about this?

Roger, hello. Talk to me. Chik, I'd like to know what do you think of the idea that the liquors lost their playoffs because they played a normal action? No, Nixon. Roger, I have never heard a more untrue, unfair statement in my career with the liquors. Just look at the record. And I say this with no disrespect to Norman Nixon, the wonderful little guy who stands the sixth one out of Duquesne University and is a credit to the entire flipper organization. But you look at the record of the liquors this year. They had a better one-lost record than they did with Norman Nixon. You look at the areas where the liquors lost in the playoffs series with Boston. They lost the free throw line. They lost in the rebounding column. These are areas maybe Norman could have helped with the free throw line. But the gutted little guy is just not a rebounder of NBA caliber and no one respects this fellow as a player

and there's an extremely fine human being more than this reporter. And boy, no one wishes he was back with a team more than I do. Good call, Roger. Good question. Next call, please, Harry. All right, Chik, say hello to a first time caller. This is Cindy, on the liquor line from Encino. Cindy, say hello to Chik. Hello. Still are not functioning up to prop. Hello, Cindy. Hello, Chik. Yes. Hi. Hi, thank you for calling. I was just wondering, if you think that the liquor's need a power forward to help with the rebounding? A power forward. My goodness, Grace is Cindy. What do you consider Kurt Rembes? What do you consider James Worthy? Bob McAdoo, a swimnator in a backup capacity, Mitch Cupcheck in a backup capacity. My godly, the Lakers Cup would seem to run over with power forwards at that position.

But I know what you're getting at. The Lakers did have a deficit in the rebounding department. They were excelled by the Celtics in that department of the game. And it's a key department for the Lakers because of course, without the rebounds, the fast break is non-existent. So if you're asking me, should the Lakers draft for that position? And I will be at the draft, of course, on Tuesday morning in New York City. Jerry West, Bill Sharman, Dr. Busse, will be in Los Angeles giving me in telephonic communication at all times. I would say, yes, that would be probably priority number one, or one and a half. If the Lakers could, in any way, get into a position to draft one of the premier centers who is coming out, of course, that's what they're going to do. But otherwise, a power forward, yes, they've got to do that if they don't want to continue to be out excelled at that facet of the game. And thank you for the call, said the good call,

first time caller. Next call, please, Harry. Chick, if I may before we get to our next phone caller, I've learned so much about the game just from working. These shows with you during the year. I'd like to ask you a question if I may. Sure. Maybe you hear so much during the telecast about the illegal defense. Maybe you could explain just exactly what is an illegal defense. Harry, I could barely just barely make out what you were saying. As I understood it, you were asking what the illegal defense call actually means. It's so complicated. And it's a rule, as you know, that I have advocated the NBA do away with. These people are being paid up to a million dollars a year. They can play any defense. People want to see athletes. They don't want to see free throw contests. But to answer the question that I think you asked, which is what the illegal defense constitutes in the way of a call.

A referee counts, takes a three count. It's actually strictly speaking, a 2.8 second count. And you know that these fellas just do an unbelievable job. And they have so much to concentrate on. And this is why I've said this for so many years, that there have to be three officials at the NBA if this league wants ever, ever to reach the level that we believe it can so well aspire to. I agree with it. It really counts the 2.7 seconds. If during that period of time, the defensive player, the defensive player is below the level of the free throw line extended while the offensive player is, let's say, let's say it's a magic Johnson head like the ball above the top of the key. And Dennis Johnson, for example, guarding him. And Dennis, I'm not saying we'd do this because as we know so well, he stuck to magic like glue to a piece of paper.

But if Dennis, let's say, we're zoning back under that line, then you get the offensive call against the illegal defense. Conversely, if magic, let's say, or Kareem, let's say Kareem goes out above the free throw line and Robert Parrish or Tree Rollins doesn't follow him out there. Then you get the call. So in effect, it's like a defensive three-second call. Of course, as I said, it's not really a three-second. It's such a complicated rule. But that's it in a nutshell. Next call, please. Good question. Great explanation, chick. Let's say hello now to Bill in Santa Monica. Hello, Billy. Hello. Hey, Billy, hold on for just a second.

We have something happening here in the building, which I personally cannot fathom why they're letting this go on. Obviously, some people here to purchase tickets for the Olympics or some future event have gotten into the building. And there is only about one uniformed official for every 1,000 people in that crowd I would have guessed. And that's not going to be enough. There's going to be something very ugly happening here. So this is a disgrace to the building. And that's, I'm sure that if Claire or Mary Lou were here, this would not be happening. Let's take a break if we may and come back on the Laker line network. Hey, Laker fans. We're Inglwood Transfer to Instortage. And for us, the Laker season is just beginning. That's right. We're starting tons of floating plus uniforms, balls, and oxygen dispensers all summer long. We're the official storage facility of the Lakers, Kings, Strings,

and Lasers. And we can keep whatever you want until you need it again. So for all your storage needs, call 213 Stormy. Do as the Lakers do. Keep it in Inglwood. Inglwood Storage, naturally, because we care about your things. Ladies and gentlemen, once again, along the radio network live from the fabulous forum in Inglwood, California. Once again, it is our duty to apologize to you as we have throughout the Playoff series for the way the voice sounds due to the cold. And the Laker girls down on the floor rehearsing a routine which they are going to do in the Olympic basketball competition. And the crews that were videotaping the rehearsal are the people that we saw earlier. And in no way was that intended as a criticism of any facet of the management of what remains the world's most beautiful indoor sports facility.

And of course, those people don't have the advantage of listening to the tapes of these broadcasts and reviewing them and learning each day to something about how to do them better for you fans. Harry, next call please. Jik here, friend Bill from Santa Monica is still in the line. OK, believe, very quickly, please. Jik, I wanted to say, first of all, that I've listened to a lot of people do basketball games around the country. And I just think nobody does the job that you and Keith do on the game, especially you and Keith. Thank you very much, Billy. We, as you know, try so hard to please the fans. And for Keith who is not here, he has improved so much over the last few years, don't you think? Yeah, he's great. Jik, what I wanted to ask you was, do you, I've heard a rumor that Karim may play after next season if he didn't get the championship you have this year and next year? Do you know if that he's been discussed?

Bill, I can't believe that you would say such a thing on the air to spread a rumor of that sort, that Karim's decision to play depends on whether he wins a championship this year or as now would be required next year. It's just not the thing that sort of thing that should be allowed on a program of this type. That's not criticism. That's reporting it as I see it, Bill, because Wilt, as long as I've known him, this is an athlete on a very special level who plays to a standard that he establishes for himself. And there would be no reason for him to set any standard other than that for the continuation or the lack of continuation of continuing to play in the NBA. And so I don't think it's right to demean a decision that the big fella and he alone will end up making.

And I will tell you this, Bill, whatever decision Karim makes about his future, it will be for the good of the NBA, a very good call. Thank you for all the calls today on the program, excellent calls. And we enjoy so much talking to you, fans and exchanging ideas and disagreeing on occasion, because I think that's what makes the program so outstanding. For Maggie Boone, for Keith Harris, for Muddy Langcroft, and all the people along the radio network and for Harry Newman back at the station, we thank you for listening. From the forum, this is Jake. Yeah. Bob and Bob, we don't need to escalate. Woohoo. Where do you call him, father? Daddy, Papa? Papa, the old man or the guy who touched me in my private places when I was little, today is his day. But father's day is more than just an opportunity for the bathrobe industry to move mom's up Terry Club.

It's a time to take time out to salute the wonderful world of fraternity. From the father of our country to dad's old-fashioned root beard, fatherhood touches our lives every day. And without dad, well, mom would have had to pay a very unpleasant visit to an artificial insemination lab. So today, from KCRW Santa Monica, the voice of America speaks for every son and daughter in saluting father's day. Great moments in Jerry, 1980. There. Right now, our people are back at Beech Stick Central, trying to add up the totals from our great customers. And all our people that are out there selling the beef stick and cheese balls, the proceeds of which they're totalling up. And Bill Pindarvus will be here tomorrow

to bring you some money, but I'll give you a little something to start us off. I'd appreciate a cheese ball, I'll do. Was that all? No, no, no, come on, Larry, don't cock around. Great Jerry Moments, 1972. Sammy Davis, Jr. is special guest co-host. No one can say it more eloquently than Marty Allen just said. But you know, the excitement in this town in Las Vegas, which, as you know, is a mecha of all our kind of world of show business. It has been excited. And the corporation and the sort of thing that's been happening with the performance has been unbelievable. The job you do is unbelievable. It transcends everything, except, hey, man, we got to help the man because he's doing his thing. Great Moments and Jerry, 1973.

I think that the magic of this whole thing is that a man stands before you when he's not ashamed. And I'm very lucky that I can do that because that's hard. I don't like to be ashamed. And yet, I'm not ashamed that I am ashamed. And people believe that in anyone. You should try it. You have a lot of friends. It's hard. Great Moments and Jerry, 1973. Because we're here in Titania. But let's be realistic. Let's know what it's about. But I think the man upstairs goofed. He made a mistake. And I think he put people like Ed, myself, and all these lovely people with the celebrity phones here to repair that goof. If you remember during the war, the rubber company said, well, recap it.

I think the man upstairs wants us to fix something he did not know he did. Great Moments and Jerry. 1977. Somehow, somehow my kids trust me. Still, I can't explain the reason why. Help me to help them come. Come along with me, know not just a few I mean all of you. Feel what I'm feeling, come on, come do what you must do. This time I'm appealing to all of you. Help me to help them now, now, right now, and now

and hold on fast. Soon we'll find the answer. I'd last 31 years of begging, trying, waiting, crying, I'd rip my feeling bare. Hoping, praying, I'd made you aware. Help me to help them now. Help me to help them now. Great Moments and Jerry, 1972, Special guest, Paul Enker. Who do these shows, some loud bravo, are more than needed.

Las Vegas or NY, because stars try, it has succeeded. Jerry is, Jerry is what Jerry is. He gets it on, he gets it on, the real show, his way. And I'm a narrow fool, I'm a narrow fool, endorse that truth. Because he doesn't, he doesn't his way. He'll do it his way. His way.

And the sweet silver song of a lot, walk on, through the wind. Just the piano, walk on, through the rain. Though your dreams be tossed, and long, walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart, and you'll never walk alone. You'll never walk alone.

Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart, and you'll never walk alone. You'll never walk alone. Hi honey. Hi. What's wrong? The savings alone said they wouldn't give us a second mortgage. But it's the same old thing.

The termites, the place where the car drove into the front wall, the quake damage. It's just not fair. There must be some place that'll take a chance on us. Your local branch of one of America's leading banks. The reason? Banks are different from other financial institutions. We're the home of the yes people. For years we've been saying yes to everyone from third world countries to small town banks, with loan portfolios more rotten than last year's melons. So with all that experience saying yes, the loans that can't possibly be paid back in our lifetime, you know we'll say yes to you. And since we're too big to go under, heart decisions are backed by the bailout strength of the U.S. government, and that's a good feeling. We say yes to Brazil, we say yes to you. Time of the time. Honey, we got the money. It's wonderful there. Yeah, thanks to the banks.

You may not pay a bank, but we'll trust you. Time of the time. America's leading banks. The yes people. We keep your savings. And you keep saving us. I think you've probably voted for me, R-E-A-G-A-N, and maybe I can get you to do it again. I don't stop, and I hardly ever shop. Because I'm at the top, but Commander-in-Chief, fellow the CIA men breathe. Oh, I get memos and breathing papers, and I put them all away. Because you never know, I might want to read them someday. I've got a wife named Nancy, she dresses pretty fancy, and she's about as quiet as a rose.

When she makes a personal appearance with, I tend to go up in the bones. Now I've been in a movie or two. I was a TV MC too. The kind of MC who likes to go and speak at lots of dinners. Or salesman of the company that sponsors my show. You see, my speeches are designed to get into your mind. I can't remind my kids into your tummy. Like willing flowers gets into his tummy. Like a summer breeze in the Malibu Hills. My words are meant to give you chills. R-O-N-A-L-D. People say I don't look 73. R-E-A-G-A-N. Reagan. Not bacon. Not even Dr. Carl Sagan. I don't stop and my skin doesn't drop.

Oh, I'm the man who's got a plan to keep Toyotas in Japan. When the red foam rings, it's always for me. I'm sitting here making history. Now, you can't ignore El Salvador. It's a little more important than poverty and bullying. And the Africaners are going to be gunners. Unless we step right in and help them turn the other chin. Sign them up for some uranium over. Now, I'm going to cut and squeeze and drink. Then I'm going to take a swing. Because you can't spend all day on this job. Or your brain gets fuzzy and your heart starts to throb. And you begin to think it's only a phase and they're going to send you back to death valid days. So I ride horses and I split wood because up with the range. Well, we're the only people in the neighborhood. R-O-N-A-L-D.

I don't know what the garros have against me. R-E-A-G-A-N. But I get my support mainly from men. I don't stop and I don't dye my hair. I just cover it with cloth. Now, when a congressman I need to grease, I turn to the man called Ed Meeze. When a foreign dictator needs a push, I send over the fellow called George Bush. For the CIA, Andrew's not too crazy. I turn to the man called Bill Casey. When I have a press conference every couple of weeks, I rehearse with the man called Larry Speaks. He speaks and he speaks, but he never leaks. They're mighty. They're not extreme. They're waking up the American dream. Because we're the top and we won't stop until the Russian bear is stuck in his layer without unemployment, without Medicare. Oh, they call me old. They say my policies are cold.

But I don't care what they've said. I just lived up my head, walked straight ahead. Keep on doing what I don't. From CPR, Continental Public Radio in Washington, I'm Ira Zipkin. And this is Up to Here. He said, come on. I'm Ira Zipkin. And this is Up to Here. He said, come on. I'm Ira Zipkin. And this is Up to Here. He said, come on. He said, hello. Then he said I should take the comfortable chair. Mayor Coleman Cole of Wilmington, Delaware. He was one of two dozen black mayors interviewed as possible running mates by Walter Mondale this week, along with 17 female legislators. Today on Up to Here, an insight into the selection process. Plus other special features.

All on CPR's Weekly Magazine of Daily Events. Up to Here. It was almost 7.30 on Friday evening when former Vice President Mondale got around to interviewing Wilmington's third-term mayor, Coleman Cole. Before him it come other black mayors, lots of women, state assembly persons, as well as two white male US senators. But his mayor Cole told me this week his hopes were still high as he was in the middle of the night. And this is up to here. And this is up to here. And this is up to here. And this is up to here. And this is up to here. And this is up to here. He was still high as he was escorted

into the suburban Minneapolis Mondale home. We shook hands. He said hello. I said hello. There was a pose. Then I asked him where I should sit. And what did he say? He said I should take the comfortable chair. Interesting. Yes. Then he had a list of areas that he wanted to go over with me. Financial background. That's everything. Yes. Any history of mental problems? Sure. The eagleton thing. Alcoholism drugs. Whether I'd ever met John Belushi. That took about ten minutes. These were areas that had been covered on the orientation sheet his office set out along with the directions on how to get to his house. What did they say?

Well, it is difficult to remember without having the sheet right in front of me. Sure. I believe it was left on state route 111. No, I'm not the questions about your background. Oh, the same things he asked me inside. It was just sort of a pre-breathing. So that I suppose if you had anything to hide, you had some time to figure out how to lie about it. I would imagine. Sure. Then what? There were a few moments of silence. A young man came in with a couple of light beers on the rocks for us. And then Mr. Mondale indicated how seriously he took the task of selecting a possible running mate. Since the man he chose might well end up being a heartbeat away from the man who lost the presidency to Mr. Reagan.

Then I said that I understood and I took it equally seriously since I'd paid my own way up from Wilmington. That's wonderful. And what did he say? He said that Charles Monat might get the party to pay for it and that I should call him on Monday. Then we watched the twins' games for a while until I got hungry, excused myself, and went home. And have you heard anything since then? I heard that the twins won. Mayor Coleman Cole, who by the way, Ira, after we finished recording the interview, he mentioned that Wilmington has filed an application to hold a world's fair in the winter of 1989. So we may all become more familiar with this man in his city very soon. CPR Susan Boykiss, thank you, Susan. You may remember Susan from her reports on CPR last year

under her maiden name of Susan Barlow. It's good to have her back. From her home in Missoula, Montana, Kim Winstanley keeps us in touch with the changing seasons. This week, of course, in summer. Of course, summer means so many changes. We walk the dog lady in the summer. They like savings, you know. Although I don't know if the dog understands the change. Or if she even realizes there is one. Do dogs have body clocks? I know they dream. But I don't think they dare dream about vacations in Nova Scotia. I know I do. It might seem silly to some for us to leave Montana and go someplace colder for the summer. But my husband and I feel being silly is an important part of the summer. We get suntans, although we don't really need them. And we put a bug light on the back porch.

Although both of us actually like bugs. I know places where you can tell it's summer because every night around seven o'clock, the whole neighborhood smells of burning charcoal. But not here. In our town, the only place that does any charcoal broiling is the local Wendy's. Otherwise, it's lots of fruit salads and cold leftovers. That's my idea of a good summer time dinner. Of course, my husband disagree. That's why he wants to go to Nova Scotia. For the food. This is Kim Winstanley in Missola, Montana. And for today, you're up to here. Up to here is produced by CPR with help from the Corporation for Potluck Broadcasting and denied from the Delaware Foundation for coverage of people from Delaware.

The program is produced and directed by Moyra Zipkin. I'm Ira Zipkin. Join us next week when once again, we'll get you up to here. This is CPR, Continental Public Radio. And it sounds good in the pool, because this is the voice of America. CPR Playhouse was owned the theater

of Continental Public Radio. Today, from the Armand Hammer baking soda memorial auditorium in Los Angeles, at Olympic Arts Festival presentation, a selection from the current one-man show, an evening with Vinnie, the man Laham, the storyteller. Still with two out on the top of the seventh, it'll be Paul Householder coming up. Paul won for three tonight, batting 243. Oral, herchize it back on the mound after a brief tour of the area, checks Yeager, and then backs off again. Marvelous story about herchizer, of course, that took place during his rookie season when he was subject to all the slings and arrows about radiusness that took a lot of any big league rookie. Oral, back on the mound, sets and delivers fastball,

just missing the outside corner according to plate-on-pire Lee Wire. It's a one-ball count to Paul Householder. Two out, nobody on top of the seventh, no score in the ball game. Oral taking plenty of time, going to have a little session with the Ryzen bag. Anyway, it was during his rookie year, and Oral was down in New Orleans at the remarkable hotel Ponset Rangers, the beautiful place, and he's staying there with Tom Nidenfuehr during the All-Star break. And Tom, he's been through all the rookie foolishness. He says, well, Oral, why don't you come up to the room and we'll order up some room service and watch the All-Star game. The one old pitch to Householder is a curveball fouled off into the upper right field deck, one and one the count. Now, reminder, the Dodgers will be at home next weekend for a four-game series with the San Diego Padres. Good seats are still on sale for all four games at the Dodgers Stadium ticket office every day from 10 until 6. Hershizer's shaken off signs from Yeager. Now Steve trots out to the mound for a conference,

make sure they've got their signal straight. So Oral is a rookie. He's especially delighted at the offer by Tom Nidenfuehr to pay for the room service dinner because even in this day and age, that first year salary didn't go too far. In meantime, of course, Tom, like everybody else on the Dodgers knows that Oral being a country boy, well, he's got some particular taste when it comes to food and that one dish Oral cannot stand is oysters. Oh, he can't eat him. He can't even look at him. Hershizer back to Householder with a fast ball looked like it got away from Oral, certainly gets away from Yeager and it rolls all the way back, but with two out and nobody on, no real damage done. The Dodgers had only one scoring opportunity in the ball game with back-to-back singles in the fifth. But a base running error, a check-swing third strike, and a bizarre rundown play just led to nothing happening and the reds have slammed the door shut since then. The two-one pitch in there, nice-looking slider,

evens up the count of two and two. On the scoreboard, Philadelphia on a nubber that got away from Bob Nepper with the bases loaded, beat the Astros 4-2. Though back at the Hotel Pongetrain, Hershizer shows up in Needin' Fuhrer's room and he sits down to watch the ball game. Makes himself comfortable, and after a while, the fellow from Room Service comes in. He sets up the little table, and the linen table cloth, and the candle in the silver, and now Hershizer's thinking, golly, this Needin' Fuhrer must be a heck of a fella to go to all his trouble and expense just for me. And, meantime, Needin' Fuhrer, just trying to keep a straight face. Hershizer delivers two, two, and it's fouled back this time into the left field seat. Count stays at two balls, and two strikes to ball householding. And you can hear the crowd reaction. Now there's a beach ball loose in the stands. Finally, the way to pulls off the silver tray cover, and there, sitting on the plate in front of Oral, it's nestling restfully on the shaved ice, and looking up at him, or three dozen oysters.

Hershizer back with a two-to-pitch swung on, a fastball hit hard, deep into right center field. Candy Maldonado gets on his horse and goes back, away back to the warning track, and makes the catch. So, three up and three down for the reds in the seventh, and the point of the story is simply that, Hershizer couldn't possibly eat the oysters, so he had to order something else for dinner. At the end of six and a half, no scoy. CPR Playhouse, the sound of theater from Cogemetal Public Radio. Next week, the making of the Star Wars Prescott. This is Broadcasting that rescues you from CPR, Continental Public Radio. It takes years of preparation to get ready for the Olympics. Years of lonely, ruling work, of never knowing whether at the end, you'll be one of the best. Being the best is what the Olympics are all about.

But to be the best, you've got to get rid of the rest. Whether you're a person or the Olympic Games themselves, removing waste is an essential part of doing your best. And that's where we come in. Weird Toxco, the official toxic waste dump of the Summer Olympics. We've been in training too, and pretty soon we'll get our chance to show you world-class toxic waste dumping. And when it's all over, there won't be any medals for us. Just the knowledge that we're one of the best. That's the spirit of the Games. Toxco, toxic waste dumping in the Olympic spirit. The Fourth of July. Maybe the most joyous holiday for any American. Whether you celebrate by barbecuing meat,

or by igniting vaguely illegal fireworks, it's a day to commemorate the founding 200-eight years ago of the greatest country in North America. So today, with the Fourth of July just hours away, the voice of America salutes the United States. Our nation's state of the week. The Fourth of July. Yes, you.

You're the one who's putting me in rubber-room town. What did I do? Do you? How do you? Were those friends who were near me? Who'd cheer me? Believe me, Gilly News. You were the kind who hurt me. I only do. Yes, you. You are driving this cat so cool. What do you do? Do you? You're driving me nuts! This is strictly from like well directed from

one of the most fabulous affairs that has been my privilege to report as, in a sense, your correspondent on the scene of what is going on in and about. The Southern California Fashion and Society scene. This is a party that is commemorating the release. And hopefully, I think the triumph of a line of fragments is the Lakhaj-afol line of fragments is for men and women. And we are here at the party. There upstairs in a quiet place. And what a wonderful affair, what a wonderful situation. I wish I could describe to you this house. They have art treasures here. There is an original Lee Roy name in it virtually every room in the house.

Let me put it that way. And we are equally blessed in terms of I cannot hear a thing. We are equally blessed in terms of the guests who will be speaking with us here today. First, from the newest of the spectacular shows out at the Universal Amphitheater. Do I have that right? Yeah. Out in Universal City, we have the gentleman who is I understand it is the understudy. And this is interesting. The understudy for the man who portrays Mr. T in the new live-action show out at Universal City. Mark Swed, what a pleasure. What a joy to see you here. Mr. Blackwell, I waited a long time for this

and it is definitely a great honor for me and pleasure to sit here with you tonight on this, what looks like some sort of Persian bedspread or something. Don't really. It is a treat. Well, it is such a pleasure for us, Mark, because we have known you since you came out to California in the 1970s. Yeah. To do what was it? Little what? Little Mary Sunshine. That's right. Okay. Now, what you are doing today is so different. Because this is a whole... Yeah. Is it a macho thing? I have not seen this. I went to Universal City when it first opened. I saw the jaws, which were fabulous. Unbelievable effect.

Yeah. To me, this is like paying $5 and sitting in a movie theater. But I do not know exactly. In the show you are doing now, this is based on what? It is based on a very popular television show. I did not watch it before. I got the job. I have certainly looked at the tape since then. It is called The A-Team. I am understudying for the fellow who plays the star of the show, who is Mr. T. Interesting. Why would they not call it? If he is the star of the show. Why would they not call it the T-Team? Do you have any insight into this? You know, I just got with the show about four or five days ago. Okay. No, I understood. Now, in the show, you are playing. Yeah. Because I understand it from what they give me to radio, which is garbage, but we read it nonetheless.

Yeah. I find that the character you are supposed to be playing is, in fact, very different from the mock sweat that is sitting here in front of me right now, isn't that true? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean... Because it is an hour and a half of makeup just to get into the Mohawk wig, which is an incredible piece. So, that is a major change. Because obviously I... It is bold on this side. I have a full head. Yeah. But also, Mr. T. is a very macho kind of guy. And although I have never downgraded my masculinity, I have never done a real hard-out, full-out macho kind of thing. I've always... Well, I feel tried, if I may, that you have always tempered

the macho machismo thing, which I find incredibly apparent in what you do as a working actor. With the kind of... I don't want to say soft, I don't want to say feminine, I don't want to say really anything. I just want to say you have tempered it in some way, which I find fascinating. What I was trying to get at, though, is that this is a black man. Oh, yeah. Well, as an understudy, I will get into the full costume, the full piece, the Mohawk piece, and the full body makeup, which is another two hours. And this is... You know, that's... The term blackface is used sometimes in reference to people doing this sort of work. But because it's full body makeup, I find that I really am taking on the character of, if you will,

a black man standing backstage waiting to go on. And... Well, as long as I've known you. The Lord's very kind to me, and I ever do get to actually go on if the guy is playing Mr. T. You know, gets... Let's hope to film a feature or something. Then I would think that I would very much be in the head of a black... Maybe not Mr. T himself, you know, because I don't watch enough of the show. But of a black man getting into these dangerous situations and, you know, stunding his way out, because, of course, I get out of the way in the stuntman, who is a black person that's generally interested in, you know. So there is that, whatever. To me, you know, it all boils down to one word, and that is entertainment. And if it does that job, then all the other questions, you know, go not just to the back burner, they go to a completely different kitchen entirely. Well, on the phone right now, this is such a pleasure for me, because we talk to him every, I don't know,

a couple of months, and get an update on what is happening in the world of not only precious gems, where this man is, to my way of thinking, a magician with an eyepiece, in terms of evaluating, buying, reselling, rebying, whatever, in the marketplace of rare gems, is available and fine. But also, one of the great sensitives, he does not like the word psychic, but Kenneth Petrosion and I'm not calling a doctor, Kenneth Petrosion, because I've been told by the station not to do that. Or welcome, what is the state of the world as you see it? Mr. Blackwell, you know that we're going to very difficult times, the market. You see what's going on with it, the straights. If I was in the stock market today, to be very frank with you, I would kill myself. This is just no place for anybody.

No, this is no place to be. What we feel today, is that the greatest hedge against uncertainty has always been gold. Gold, of course. He continues to be gold. Gold. I am telling all my people to get into gold with all their might. This is something disturbing to me, only because six months ago, I believe on this program, you said to get in the class, the 2000 out of gold, which I did. But that is what under the bridge, Mr. Petrojan, you have said that you will take a couple of phone calls and do a couple of readings. Let's get to that right now. Can we punch in the phones here? Great, let's do it. Hello. Hello, you're on the air with Kenneth Petrojan. Go ahead. Kenneth, you have said that you want the caller, really, to say his or her name,

and to hold a piece of jewelry that they described to you that you were reading from that. That's right. They would tell me a little bit about this. Okay. Yeah. I would tell them. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What's your first name, please? My first name is Mark. What's not new? The lady on the phone, please. My sixth name is Marguerite. Marguerite. I'm holding a diamond pendant. Diamond pendant. Do you wear that with... Would you wear that with a dolmen sleeve? Just a question off the top. I don't believe so. Yeah. I didn't think so. I get that from you. I'm not a psychic or a sensitive, but I do get these things. Kenneth, what are you getting from Marguerite? Let me go back to my question. I feel this definitely Marguerite

should not be into any kind of precious gem at this time. Should not. You have the diamond. I would sell the diamond pendant. Okay. Then you have... You know, get a good price on it. And then get into a mutual fund, like that, which you might. Because it's going to be... The next year is going to be stormy, very stormy. Interesting. And not just your life. It's just, you know, generally. Interesting. Marguerite, can you accept this? Well, yeah. It's different than I thought I would get this reading. But it's definitely something to think about. Thank you. Okay. This is good. This is someone that we... And get a different perspective, maybe in our life.

Maybe so. Mark Swead. What is the derivation of the name Swead? It's an interesting story, Mr. Blackwell. The actual family name is... Borgerstrom. Borger. And... I can't even say. I was sitting in the office of my... At that time, my manager, Milton DeVos, on an afternoon. And he said, you know, what kind of a name is Borgerstrom? Because he felt that... He felt the name was standing in my way. And, you know, I had no particular feeling about one way or the other. Like a lot of the kids in Hollywood, I really just wanted to, you know, make it. And so I told him, with Sweadish, Sweadish, Sweadish, Swead, Swead, Swead. Isn't that? It was just something that occurred to him. And I was as amazed by it as he was. And, you know, it's stuck and the rest is... There was this show business history waiting to be written. You know, this is the sort of feeling that I get...

That I got. I'll put it that way. When I came up with the float. You know, I'm sure it's the same feeling that Oscar De La Rana got when he copied it. But, you know, it is that feeling of... My God, I have done something here. That is new. That was not here before. I was here on the phone right now. And we're still talking to Kenneth Petroche. But right now, just a word with a good friend Alan, say, Alan, how are you? Your show has been canceled. It has been canceled, Mr. Blackwell. Is it true? Have you found that out? Did they talk to you? Because I don't... I don't hear anything anymore. Yeah, they talk. No, I saw... You know, it has been in all the papers. Alan, where do you go from here? This was a wonderful opportunity for you with, you know, the divorce, a new direction in your life.

What next for an Alan thing? Actually, we're very excited because there's a new concept that I've been working on with some of the writers from the fiction, and some people that I know that are just, you know, outside people. And it's what we've said is, you know, that they've taken the idea of the soup opera, prime time, but not since the days of the Quiso scandals, you know, they haven't taken the game show, prime time, you know. Interesting. Yeah. And it's because men, you know, are the prime time artists, and they want to see something different from what the women, they get out today of the watching, you know, they want to see something that's a little bit more masculine. And we're working on it. There's a concept we've got called Make My Day, you know, because it's the phrase from the movie. And we're going to be kind of fine tuning it for a series of shows

up in Canada. They may be, you know, we know their guns involved, but it's, you know, it could be just a shooting kind of thing with questions, you know. We're just working on a load, and I'm going to be the host in the executive producer, because being Murray Special is from the time. Right. Alan, we are with you at this time, because we have all had ups, we've all had down. And to me, it seems as though from a personal experience that I had two years ago before the plastic surgery, that the ups are better, the worse, the downs, and that's not wishing anything on anybody. Kind of the patrosion, Mark Sway, Alan Thick. I don't know where the time goes, but must go down a sinkhole somewhere. We've had such good funds, such good conversation today with all three of you. I love the moment of my work. Okay. We must vanish as well. Next time, we will do the what I call the clothing

and design scandals of the Olympic Games. It is something that will make a sailor blush. Until then, from the party celebrating the release of the new La Cache, a full fragrance, which has wonderful wood woods notes in it. Let's talk about that. Until then, strictly from Blackwell. Bye-bye. You want to go drink? From the Holmes Tottle Collection, the West's leading active archive of historic storylines, come tales of romance, power, and intrigue in our nation's capital. These are Hellcats of the White House. Our story opens at the Carl Spade Caverns, where the president is just concluding a speech praising his efforts on behalf of the environment, flanking him,

as he is trusted aid, Jim. And anybody who thinks that I'm not for environmental safeguards, well, he just doesn't know what he or she is talking about. Thanks for coming. Well, Jim, that went okay, didn't it? Very well, sir. Good photos, good speech. Great delivery. I don't think we could ask for anything more. Pretty good turnout, too, don't you think? Oh, well, sure. These guys would just assume as we would. Sure. You know, this place wouldn't look half bad if they fixed it up a little bit. It would have all this junk hanging down from the ceiling. Well, this place wouldn't look half bad if they fixed it up a little bit. It would have all this junk hanging down from the ceiling. What do you think? Uh, yes, sure. Maybe even got a skylight up there, so you get some sun in here. That's the thing. Isn't a little depressing without any

daylight, don't you think? Well, I made a call Bill Rutgers house. See, maybe we can't get this place looking decent during the next turn. Yes, sir. Oh, by the way, sir, speaking of personnel, this Ann Berford thing is kind of blowing up on our faces a little bit. I don't want to hear any more about that, Jim, just because she's a woman, people seem to be picking on her. That's the most hypocritical thing I can imagine. Well, no. She's good people. She's got a hell of a figure, don't she? No, it's just the environmentalists, sir. Well, they're really ticked. Yes. Well, how many grizzly bears vote? I don't know, sir. I just don't know. Meanwhile, later that day,

the president is recovering from his excursion in the Lincoln bedroom of the White House. Across the room, sitting at a vanity table, removing dead skin from her feet, is his wife who is adviser and answer. In the background, a television set is carrying the news. Good evening. Watermond Dale today stunned the experts by announcing his choice for a running mate. Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro of New York. We have two reports beginning with First World War. Just look at what she's wearing, Ronnie. Geraldine Ferraro is a long shot to become. She probably buys off the rack at Loman's. But she was a patriarch in the state. Of the Democratic party. through being a tough Democratic or campaign literature for claims. She feels nothing, Ronnie. I know you better than that. You don't know me that Well, that's true.

But it's just that... Well, Jim assured me that our people were sure that he was going to pick up a battery. to pick up, you know, someone like Lloyd Benson. Certainly not that woman. Look at her. She's got calves the size of a sparklid's models. That's an awful thing to say, dear. Hmm. I wonder if... Oh, you know, it would seem too obvious. What are you thinking of, dear? Dumping George Bush and adding a woman to our ticket? Mommy, you read me like a reader's digest condensed book. Well, it's my job, dear. Hmm. Maybe I could twist Sandra O'Connor's arm into stepping down from the court. No, that's ridiculous. You mean a cut in pay and working nights? What about Elizabeth Doe? She likes working nights. I'm kind of tempted to go with Ann Berford

if she hadn't stirred up such a hornet's nest with that environment thing. What is it those people have against her anyway? They're just jealous, dear. They just wish they were in a position to dine with people who want to develop federal parkland. I guess so. It's just the... Hello, Mr. President. Ed. I hope I'm not interrupting anything. Ed, if you weren't interrupting anything, I wouldn't be doing my job now, would I? I suppose not, sir. You heard about the Ferraro thing? I just did. What's the matter with our people? How come we didn't know about this before it's on the news? Well, I don't think Mondale knew. Besides, I think our sources in the Democratic Party they just aren't what they used to be. I guess you're right. Nixon spoiled it for all of us. Sir, I hate to bother you at a time like this.

Well, what time would you like to bother me? I beg your pardon? He's just a little pee dish, Ed. Oh, it's just that... If I dump George Bush and run with a woman, then it looks like I'm a copycat. But if I don't... Then you look like a statesman. Yes. It's a rough choice. Well, sir, if I could take a minute, I was wondering if our people over on the hill had talked to you lately. Oh, yes. I just got a briefing from them today. One pager. Now, where is it? Congress. Congress. Oh, darn. Sir, I was just wondering if you'd heard anything about the chances of me being confirmed as, you know, attorney general any time soon. Mrs. Mees kind of has her heart set on that addition to the back bathroom and... Ron doesn't have the heart to tell you, so I will. It's not going to move this year. The back bathroom will...

Afterweight. But... It's just too risky. They're going to throw this sleaze factor thing at Ron, and... You're just too big a target. It would be like Mondale picking a new party chairman and naming Bert Lance to the job. Bad chance. Ed. Cancer. You're at trusted aid. And until January 20th, you're... You're just going to have to be satisfied with that. I... I couldn't just prosecute some people on the side. Could he, mommy? No, dear. I'm afraid not, Ed. Well, I can handle it, and the Mrs. is... You know, she's pretty strong. Oh, sure. But what do I tell the plumbing contractor? I don't know, Ed. I... Just don't know. Does the buck really stop here?

Or is it just on a brief layover? Next time, rehearsing for the convention. On... ...all cats of the White House. Good morning. Dan Ryder, CBS News, reporting from Moscone Center in San Francisco. The delegates are gone this Sunday morning, and the podium has been dismantled. The folding chairs have been put away, and the Coca-Cola barrels have been loaded onto trucks and returned to warehouses in the East Bay. The restrooms have been locked, and the parking lots have lowered their rates. But we're still here. In our four-million-dollar election central. We're here this morning, primarily,

to fill another hour that can be used to amortize the cost of that studio. And we focus this morning on the one issue that is most likely topic A, for the man or woman in the street or for that matter on the sidewalk. The topic, the convention itself, and our coverage of it. With me here in the Spookily Empty Moscone Center, is political correspondent Bruce Morton. Bruce, what do you might God of all this, or any of it? Dan's statistics never tell the whole story. But when there's no story, statistics say quite a lot. We talked to 437 delegates, as they left the convention. The first time exit polling techniques have been applied to convention delegates. And they show some interesting, if not trends, then at least tendencies towards trends in the making. 92% of our delegates sample were getting back home by means of air travel. Had we ever taken this kind of survey at previous conventions, this year's figure might well have been a record high on that count. The delegates said they'd like a snapshot of themselves, if we had shown them on television.

Here again, a gender gap develops. Women were more interested in seeing themselves on TV than men by a substantial 17%. That is a plus or minus accuracy of five, isn't it, Bruce? You could say that, Dan. Delegates weren't perhaps in the best position to judge this. At many points on the floor, you couldn't even see a TV monitor. But they did say by an eight point margin that they thought this year's coverage was better than 1980. That splits regionally, as you might expect. The Midwest watches more TV. Absolutely. Bruce, any real surprises in the delegate exit polls? You weren't surprised by any of this. No. Well, then, Dan, no real surprises. Good. But an odd thing did show up among our Jewish delegate sample. 60% of them thought you were Jewish. Only 3% of the blacks thought you were Jewish, and 27% of Southern whites. So, whether Walter Mondale can unite all these diverse elements remains to be seen. Dan? And, of course, it's rather not retiner. Thank you, Bruce.

Interesting use of computer animated donkeys. With me now at Election Central, a CBS News Senior Correspondent, Walter Cronkhy. Walter, I saw you talking to Italian television about our coverage. How do you think foreigners perceived all this? Well, Dan, I think the fact that these kind of news gathering resources were purchased and deployed, and then underused may have distressed our European cousins a little bit. Of course, they have a tradition over their government control television that's totally alien from ours. But, well, we did outnumber the delegates four to one. Walter? Yes, but, as you know, better than anybody. Dan, we outnumber the president of the press conference 200 to one. That's a good point. Thank you. What I think they're going to go back home really, talking about our sky boots. I don't think any of them had ever seen a three-story booth before. And, of course, it will be shipped to Dallas where the GOP meets immediately after the Olympics. Yeah.

Thank you, Walter. We'll be looking for even longer eyebrows from you down at the GOP convention. Well, of course, but I- Charles Corolt has been walking through this eerily deserted former convention home, and he seems to have found some familiar faces, Charles. Dan, the chairs have been folded up. The state delegation signs have probably been busted up for kindling on these cold summer San Francisco evenings. Evenings that after today will not be immortalized on television except probably on the local news. But there are still some toilers in our journalistic vineyard here in this Goofy Deep Populated Moscone Center, and they have some thoughts about this exercise in televised democracy. There were some stories we covered, most of them, hopefully, and some we missed. For example, Geraldine Ferraro shopping for groceries in San Francisco. We missed that one total. Of course, maybe she didn't go shopping until she got back to New York,

but we'll never know, for sure. George, you saw a lot of the coverage from your vantage point in the truck. David, a convention in which all the important questions are answered before we begin as one thing. But this year one has to question, I think, the future of convention coverage itself, at least as we know it in this country, for just an example. Where is it written that each network should have four floor reporters? I think two would have suffice quite nicely here in San Francisco, for example. And it seems possible that we could get by and with even fewer come Dallas. On the other hand, if you didn't see a sufficient or a necessary number of journalists wandering the floor equipped with headphones and antennas, would your appetite for convention coverage be successfully satiated? There's also the question of balance. Fewer floor reporters would very subtly shift the preponderance of airtime in these twin quadrennial exercises in favor of the anchor booth. And at the risk of seeming inordinately self-sacrificing, is that what we want

in an electronic democracy? David? It's a good question, George. Let's hope that by the time we get to Dallas, if we can't answer it, the least we can do is ask it again. We left them talking like that to each other in this oddly unpeopleed arena. We did try to find some less Olympian conversation in the hall, but the workmen had finished dismantling the stage for the Democrat show and they'd all gone home. And at a time like this, home seems a pretty good place to go. We leave you as always on a Sunday morning with a touch of nature. In this case, a Siamese cat who wandered into this peculiarly unoccupied public space. Do her cries signify more than the sound and fury we were able to generate with our feeble efforts? If so, maybe we should have fed her.

Dan? Charles, thank you. Unlike the rest of us, Tom Broko has left San Francisco, primarily according to our sources because his networks hotel deal has expired. Before he left, he shared the following thoughts with us. It looks like the Democrats have learned to live with television. Whether this means new life for our liberties or an increasing lack of liveliness, we will only learn somewhere down the line. As we in television prepare to leave, it would be lovely to know if we're losing part of a lure and ruster of democracy or actually lending it new longevity. Hopefully, the answer lies in Dallas. If indeed, answers can lie. And so we've gone substantially past the end of this part of the process and a more talk and half the crew would go into overtime. For all of us here at the now almost scarierly uncrowded Moscone Center,

Dan Rather, thank you for joining us. Thank you, Renee, and good morning. I come before you this morning as the son of immigrant parents, a man and a woman who worked hard, saved their money, crossed both the Atlantic and the Caribbean, waited their turn, and finally were allowed to be among the few central Europeans to enter this great country at the time of World War II. These proud but humble people settled in Spokane, Washington. But soon realized they did not want to raise a family in the heart of the inland empire. So again, they moved, again seeking a brighter horizon to Los Angeles. My fellow Americans, they embody the values we all hold so dear,

working, saving, not wanting to live in Spokane. It is because of them that I can sit before you today and not have to call this radio program either the voice of Austria or the voice of Poland, but can instead say with joy and reverence, this is the voice of America. Make it as a rose, miss America, lovely as she goes, miss America.

As Nipple meets Nipple, my heart skips a beat. She's the kind of girl I'd want, living on my street. Never in a dream, beauty is such as this. Gucci on his skin, make to women kiss. Now millions can cherish her pose. She's Miss America, make it as a rose. We're inaugurating, and by we, I mean, of course,

I am inaugurating a new feature on the program this week that will run for the length of the Olympiad or the end of the games, whichever comes first, and that is namely every 15 minutes we will update you on the weather here at KCRW because of course it's important to know. It changes so, oh my goodness, what a surprise, this is great. Please sit down, we're on the air. Join us, the mic is open. Ladies and gentlemen, nothing to say except please, please join me in welcoming Mr. Kurt Gowdy to the facility this morning. Good morning, Harry, it's a pleasure to be here. Never been at the campus before, this is a campus, of course. It's a great, great look to it, great feeling to be with the kids. Yeah, well, it would be if there were classes in session, but I know the point you're getting to, and I guess we can imagine why you're in town. You must be here to share on the excitement. It is exciting for you still after all this time to attend an Olympics, is it not?

Harry, you never lose that, you never, if you do, you're just no good at your job because the job is to communicate somehow that sense of excitement. And no time is more to say, are you excited at the Olympic Games like saying to enjoy having sex? That's the whole idea is excitement or enjoyment. And though I don't have, I'm not here in a professional capacity and heck, I got tickets or didn't get tickets just like anybody else. I didn't get tickets, but I had some business here anyway. And it's great to see the guys. Let me ask you, I mean, in all... Sure, go ahead. You're in the city, the event is going on. You've worked really for all three networks. I've been screwed by four networks. You got to count mutual or radio network only. But I was lead at NBC Sports for number of years. And Joe Guerrero came in and, you know, Joe's a glad-hander. Of course, that's the past.

Sure. The Olympics, I think, is what's on everybody's mind here. What would... You have memories, probably, of what was the last Olympics you covered? The last Olympics I covered in an official capacity was Sepuro, which a lot of people don't remember the Olympics. It's current in some of you, hemorrhide treatment or something. But it was the Olympics at Sepuro. We did the lose. We were fastening the event. Yeah. Never seen it before in my life. That was a winner of 1974. Of course, the Olympics have changed so much as that. It used to be the focus was on sports, the athlete. That's what we did, of course, with NBC in 1972. But now, it's the politics and the television is taking over. And the athletes, he's in second place. I don't know if it's as much fun. I don't know if I'd enjoy it as much. Back then, there was a great sense of adventure because, of course, these were kids. Yeah.

You're still doing what the sportsman show? Still doing American sportsmen. Doing a new series this fall. Earn Moran is taking his duck hunting in Manitoba. Great. What a lovely young lady she's grown up to be. She's a star of those were the days. We also have former Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau. Wow. You know kayaking with him. And we shot that, of course, already. He is an expert kayaker. No kidding. Yeah. That's something, you know, with all the publicity that we never learned about him before. So you're doing the sportsman and doing the sportsman. Doing the sportsman doing the series of sports commentaries. Only heard by the armed forces. You know, they're starved for sports coverage. And they're great fans. Great fans. Get great mail from them. What is that on the satellite? No, it just comes in the slot. Oh, I see. No, I was speaking of the radio program. Oh, no, that's on shortwave. You got to have a special radio to pick it up. But, you know, we own stations in the great northeast part of the country. And I'll tell you, you hear so much about the sunbelt all the time.

But the great fans and the great teams, the great traditions of sports. You think of the Celtics. You think of the Bruins. You think of the Trojans. You know, it just goes on and on. Yeah, I suppose it does. Do you have any, I know you haven't prepped for the Olympics as you would if you were actually broadcasting it. But do you have any predictions for us or things to look for in the games? The Russians are always going to give the United States a run for their money in gymnastics, in track and field, and in basketball. This year should be no different, Harry. No, you're right. It shouldn't. Kurt, we're behind on the music rotation, but I can't thank you enough for dropping by here today. My pleasure, Harry. Pleasure to be back at FM Radio. It's really my first love and broadcast. Well, it's mine too, Kurt. It's the thing that's... Thank you for being with us. We will have that weather check coming up. Do you have a television set here? I'd just love to watch the Olympics. Yeah, I think there's one in the office.

Right. Thanks very much, Harry. Bye-bye, everybody. Weather check coming up on the voice of America. It depends, too. Do you want a movie to become a hit? Who are you going to call? Girls Busters. If you don't care, if it's a piece of shit, who are you going to call? Girls Busters. I had a freedom audit. I had a freedom audit. I had a freedom audit. If you wanted to have the same effects, who you got to call?

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As you may know, in strict accordance with the Olympic Charter and following kind of a stern warning from international Olympic officials, I limited myself on that historic occasion to the 16 words that are specified in the Olympic Charter. A document, by the way, that the Congress has never bothered to ratify, but that's between you and your congressmen. In any case, several people have asked me what comments I would have made, had the international sports bureaucrats allowed me to, as my father used to say, chuck right down to the cob. Well, sir, I guess I would have said a few dangerous words about freedom. Maybe I would have made a disturbing reference or two to the loving God who gave us the Coliseum. I might have even pointed out that, although the Democrats claimed to be the party that cares about the ordinary man, they didn't care enough to send Walter Mondale here to join me in opening the Olympic Games. Not necessarily the international bureaucrats would have led him,

but, of course, the Democrats had no way of knowing that. I might have told the two billion people watching on Worldwide satellite television that America seeks only peace in the world, and that in the Olympics has in the search for peace, quitting is for losers. Now, of course, some people might say that America quit the Olympics. Now, of course, some people might say that America quit the Olympics four years ago. But, of course, a different president ordered that policy, and if memory serves me correctly, well, he did turn out to be kind of a loser. I might even told the splendid young athletes from around the world that the air they breathe and the water they drink is cleaner now than it would have been four years ago, if they had held the Olympic Games in Los Angeles that year. Oh, I would have declared the Games open all right, but I might have asked the elite of the world's athletes to consider why the Olympic movement shouldn't be open to all,

why it shouldn't stop after more than a hundred years prohibiting participation in Olympic events by tomorrow's champions, the unborn. Well, in any case, it was quite an honor to help open these wonderful games, but the thing that really put a lump in my throat was visiting our United States Olympic team. These young people symbolize what's best about America, and I'll make you a little bet that they didn't spend their time last week watching the Democrat Convention. Their courage in the face of a Soviet-led boycott, which almost guarantees them twice as many gold medals, is the sort of optimistic spirit that's the real spirit of America, not the gloom and doom-mongering of a party that seems to prefer a gay rights rally to the hundred-meter dash. But as someone once said, things that might have been can never be. The games are beginning, and Nancy and I are looking forward to watching them with you. As president of the host country, of course I wish all the competitors Godspeed and good luck.

But as an American, I wouldn't mind a bit if our boys and girls. But as an American, I hope our boys and girls bash their brains out. Enjoy the games, God bless you, and thanks for listening. Ladies and gentlemen, we direct your attention to your radio. To honor our Olympic athletes, a medley of songs by Marvin Hamlish, will be performed by the 1600 members of the world's loudest marching band, an exclusive feature this morning on The Voice of America. Good morning, everybody. We're starting off a couple of hours later this morning, just to throw you off a little bit. Frank Everett with you at Olympic Sports Control,

and we've got a full-morning schedule of events for you. Starting off with a men's quintathlon, a new Olympic event shooting, swimming, running, jumping, and dog racing, and that's coming up very shortly from the Coliseum. And over at Cal State Northridge, we'll be seeing some of the women's equestrian events on tape this morning, starting with Dressage. And let me tell you something. If you've never seen women dressing these amazing horses, well, you're in for quite a treat. And about an hour from now, Kathleen Sullivan will be rejoining us right here at Olympic Sports Control. She's having her sweater refused. But first, let's go to a different Olympic venue for a different kind of Olympic event, Keith Jackson, O.J. Simpson, or at Pershing Square Park. Keith? MUSIC Frank, you took a quick decision to get park clearing into these Olympics Thursday afternoon. A municipal judge ruled that Los Angeles police could not clear on this people out of city parks. Then, well, the whole Friday morning, the Olympic Committee added park clearing as a demonstration event.

And so, here we are this morning, O.J. and rather than teams from competing nations, as usual, on these games, of course, in this competition, we have teams representing two parts of the same country. That's right, Keith. On one side, there's the combined team of the LA police and sanitation departments, and on the other side, the homeless people who sleep in the parks. It should be quite a battle. Hmm. A battle, indeed. They odds, though, would seem to favor the LA city team. They come much more well equipped, after all, the sanitation department has large trucks. But they also hope to capitalize on the element of surprise. And some 10-hour ABC truck drove up about half an hour ago. Well, the homeless people weren't even awake. But what might equalize things a little bit, teachers, that you can count under homeless to be a little more emotionally involved in this contest, after all these people do live here? Good point, juice. And we should clarify a little bit of official to a nomenclature here. The homeless people do indeed have a home, since they reside here under the California fan palms in Persian Square. More properly, they should be called, I guess, the homeless people.

But now the contest is on. As here comes the first truck up to the line of sleep engine. There's no official start to the competition. Of course, it just begins whenever the police are ready. Oh, good save by the homeless. Where the eggs just cleared a pocketbook in time, or else it was an easy score into the truck. Of course, it's one point for confiscating personal property, two points for actually rusting a member of the homeless team. It's kind of a thankless game, they play, because, due to what might be called a severe lack of coaching, the homeless team just never seems to go on offense. That's right, Keith. The whole key to their game is D, tough D. And they're using a moving multiple pick of winos as their front line. Part of the reason for that we would presume is that these people who are old and drunk enough to have the flexibility needed to take a direct hit from one of these big garbage getters and just bounce back from more. Oh, good grab by number 52 for the city team. A whole cardboard box full of clothes on ID, apparently belonging to the Mexican woman running down the far sideline. Well, she knows now she sort of cut off that angle to a right. Keith and she left too big an opening there. The city team had no trouble at all taking advantage of it.

I guess you'd have to truck that up to experience. Wouldn't you just? Yeah, that in better nutrition. Uh-huh. Actually, I didn't. Well made. And now the city helicopter is coming in actually an aerial attack. Pass it to their game. So with the city team leading the homeless, three nothing here in the first few minutes of what promises to be a real chess game in Persian Square, let's deprive me of still more airtime. And send it back to the books. Today, before you become totally sick of it, we're using this music to remind you of one important fact. Olympic athletes who want to win start out there Sunday morning listening to the voice of America. Protein.

It's one of the basic building blocks of life. And increasingly with beef being implicated for its high cholesterol content, and poultry still bearing the brunt of the chicken and egg controversy, fish is fast becoming America's third favorite source of protein nourishment. And no wonder, light, easy to digest, cooks up hundreds of different ways, but always tastes the same. Next is soybeans and krill, pound for pound, dollar for dollar, fish is the most economical way to fill your protein needs for its size. And because they can live underwater and never come up for air, fish have always fascinated poets, painters, and philosophers. So no wonder that the voice of America this morning salutes fish as our protein source of the week. In any case,

there will be 3. Can you my darling? Can you picture the dreams? Can you cord your ocean of violet and blue? Animals strike curious poses that feel the heat that heat between me and you Just be standing low in a world that's so cold, maybe I'm just too demanding Maybe I'm just like my father, do it fool, maybe I'm just like my mother She never said it's bad, never said it's bad

Maybe I'm just like my brother, easing it back up, oh Charlie Pride, maybe I'm just like my sister I like to wear blue clothes, maybe I'm just like my cousin, Eldridge, we got the same lips And the same nose, maybe I'm just like my auntie She likes to swim with herself, and I'm just like a husband This is what it sounds like when I sing with myself Maybe I'm not like my family, maybe I'm not my coach Maybe I can't grow up my stage, maybe I should save it, no jokes Maybe I'm just like my father, do it fool, maybe I'm just like you

Doctor it at dawn, studies leading to a degree in media at the University of Northern California Today is session 12 in the course, development and dynamics of the situation comedy Yuri Latzuer is Dr. Norton Cramden, instructor in comedy and variety television at the University Good morning, when Masters Argin Ernest Belko and his entire platoon were moved bodily from Fort Baxter, Kansas to Camp Fremont, California

America's sons of reality, the hand of itself, was profoundly altered After all the movement of a platoon of motor bull soldiers and their sergeant intact from one military installation to another, within the continental United States, was unheard of, it seemed safe to say, prior to the airing of Belko episode 79 Yet as we've seen over and over again throughout the course of this course, that is precisely the function of the media, to move us as it were, from one base to another If you've been watching the assigned episode cassettes, you'll recall that the reaction of Sergeant Belko and his men to this drastic alteration of their physical and their metaphysical environment was non-existent It was as if they hadn't even noticed the difference This is the modern man, Silver is saying, the man who embraces change even at the cost of ignoring it

But take note, if you will, of an even more provocative element on this entire scheme of things, the platoon's commanding officer, the gruff but comical colonel Hall, is transferred to Camp Fremont along with the rest of them Authority follows the masses, right or naath you hike and is telling us, and languages stylized as that of Shakespeare or shaky This selective altering of work, good day, reality, for heightened effect, it comes to full flower years later, of course, in my mother the car, which proposes that a young man's mother takes the form of a like-model automobile When Belko tells Colonel Hall in one of their characteristic exchanges of the new post, sir, your wife looks like a Miss America contestant Well, the joke is on the Colonel, but it's also in a very real sense on Belko as well And we'll discuss that, the very next time we meet

Until then, savor with me, if you will, the comical sign on and sign off, used throughout his career by Phil Silvers Glad to see you Goodbye Tomorrow on Doctorate at Dawn, the switcheroo from Lucy to Fonsi This program is presented as a public service by the University of Northern California in cooperation with this station, which is requested to return this tape to the university after airing Thank you Time now for a voice of America's spotlights to loot And today it falls that a man we know best is a bold and imaginative former Lieutenant Governor of California, with no connections to organized crime And as a tireless fundraiser for Republican causes, but before he became an important cog in our two-party wheel, he was a major figure in the music business

Who can ever forget the time he was president of MGM Records, and fired every act suspected of using drugs, with a possible exception of Eric Burton And before that, well, he wrote some of the greatest songs ever to come out of a decade, we now call the 60s Today's voice of America's songwriter, The Week, is Mike Kerb He's started on a sub-sensory, all of him freaks deep, now is spread never away, freak out U.S.A. While we walk, we look exactly the way we want to, yeah, the time has gone for no one to come, that we all can't go to the road Freak out U.S.A.

Freaking out down in Baltimore, we're down in LA anyway, to head down to New York City, freak out U.S.A. While we walk, we look exactly the way we want to, yeah, the time has gone for no one to come, that we all can't go to the road Freak out U.S.A. I am over 25, but you can trust me, I can understand just how you feel

I am over 25, but trust me, I've shared with you kids the same ideas I once chased the same dreams you're pursuing, just like you I heard the flower song I did everything that you are doing, so I won't put you down and say you're wrong I know that there were times as I grew older, times I'd come out when I put to the terrace, times I was afraid the world might must be times when I settled for what second fell

I tried to keep the torture life because I always felt that you who are under 25 would pick up where I faltered and go all the step or two I am over 25, but you can trust me, trust me because I trust you Trust me, trust me, please, please, trust me Trust me, trust me, please, trust me, please, trust me

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And here's a gentleman sitting inside his cell with an American flag and a picture of a girl's scotch tape to his wall, now there's a chauffeur opening the door of the black car, and here's a woman with a long skirt holding out Here are the two guards, back in the jail, looking at each other, and here's the girl again wearing a black hat and red lipstick, and just looking Here's a long shot of the island, now it appears to be Alcatraz or something, here's the guard helping the woman up, and here's a man in the cell of the prison, and his door is being opened, the guard is taking him out, and he's surprised The guard is taking him out in slow motion, and the man is sort of resisting because he doesn't know where he's going to, and other prisoners are looking at him and giving him the thumbs upside, because it means freedom, apparently Oh, here's another prisoner who's a little angry that he's getting out, and here's another prisoner giving him the heavy metal salute, and we're just panning along all these cells in slow motion, and now it dissolves to water, and there's a shark's fin Oh, and there's the shark itself, there's the jaws, and here's the girl in black, and she's on the boat, and apparently going towards the island where the prison is, and here's the prisoner

The priest is reading him the last rites, and it looks like the warden in a suit walking behind him, and the prisoner is walking straight ahead He's not looking at us, he's looking sort of beyond the camera, and perhaps he's going to his execution, it's hard to tell But the priest is reading to him, and now the prisoner is looking to his left, and here's the woman in black coming towards him The prisoner has long hair, chronic hurting, not very well styled, and here's the woman in black looking straight ahead Looking at the prisoners, he approaches her, and she approaches him, and then the guards push him away, and now he approaches her, and they hugged They hugged, and they're still hugging And now here's the warden looking at a guard who's got the size of a little midget, and they're looking to put a guitar, and here's a guard, two guards with a struggling prisoner No, it could be, yes, it looks like an executioner, he's got a hood on, and he's breaking a guitar against a wall, that same guitar

Now he breaks it again, and again again, and he's got strange metal couplings over his eyes that look like heavy forts, and now the guards are walking around Here's the warden, and the guard takes the woman, the woman's being taken away from the prisoner, the prisoner's being taken away from the woman now, and now he's lying down And here's an executioner on a black hood, and now she's taking the hood off, and it's a woman, in a black leather bikini, and here's the prisoner, and he's waking up when it was a bad dream, and he's got his hands over his eyes, and he can't believe it And he shakes his head, and he's in his bed, he's not in prison at all, he's in bed, and he opens up the window, and looks out across the bay, and there's the prison, and oh my goodness, it was just a dream Special feature time now here on the Voice of America, and today we have what I'm pretty proud to say is I think a very unique farm report This is, to my knowledge, the first time that pork belly, what?

Phone from the putt, okay, well my engineer young Sid Davis has informed me that this may be a joke, I don't know, but there's supposedly a call on the line from the president of the United States, so perhaps we better take it Hello, you're on the air, good morning Hello, is this Harry Sharer from KCW Santa Monica? Yes, yes sir, this is, is this Mr. President? Yes, Harry, I'm just calling on behalf of Nancy and myself to congratulate you on this year, first week on the air there at KCW And to extend our wish for a successful series of programs from Santa Monica, and hope that this will happen Well, Mr. President, I should just out of courtesy point out that this isn't as people who were listening to my first week, actually we started last week as a matter of fact Well, this is the second week on the air

As you know, we've been terribly busy with a situation in Lebanon and the entire Middle East and perhaps with a proper briefing we could have done this the appropriate time But I'm still so happy for you and I just want to extend my congratulations second week or first week Thank you, sir, and you know, I'm, as grateful as can be for the, for the call, could I possibly impose upon you as long as we have you in the line here, I think since this station does have a sort of a public service reputation if we could just impose upon you to answer Yes One question while I have you on the line, I think the listeners would be grateful and appreciative for that effort All right, sir, thank you In this week's news, your chief of staff or your one of your counselors, your niece was quoted as saying that people, hungry people in this country aren't really hungry there just they would rather get a free meal than have to work for their food like the rest of us And then he fairly quickly withdrew that statement after some public outcry, now you have appointed a commission to investigate this problem and perhaps we could just get your your view of of of this situation

Well, it is true that I have appointed a commission and it would be premature at this point to speculate as to any results or conclusions that they may draw, they of course have all the facts to go on and a great deal of information that they're disposal that I don't have at this particular time But I do have a hunch that might explain a little bit of what's going on here and maybe I could share that with you and your listeners It seems to me that maybe these poor people who appear not to have enough food in fact are getting food because as you know Harry, there's plenty of food all over this country You see it every day and I got a so do I and my my hunch is just that these these poor people are actually getting all the food they need but through a failure of our educational system They're just not prepared perhaps they haven't been taught how to eat it in the proper way

I don't know maybe they're not putting it into bite size pieces Or perhaps maybe it's even going down the wrong hole but in any case if this turns out to be one of the causes of this so-called problem And if my commission reports that that in fact is the case I'm going to recommend that every governor and mayor in this country as you know Harry The primary responsibility for education under our system I'm going to recommend that they undertake a crash program to see to it that every American no matter how rich or how poor learns how to eat Well frankly I think we can do no less Basically I don't think we're going to do any more I think that's encouraging sir that you've obviously put some thought into the problem and have some tentative conclusions at least already that would seem to differ from those of Mr. Mies I can't think enough for calling us on this our second program and please give my regards to Nancy and to Ron Jr

Well I don't see Ron Jr very much but of course Nancy joins me in congratulating you you know I started in radio and it certainly brings back memories of- He's giving up ballet Oh yes but as I was saying I have so many memories of back in Dixon Illinois calling and as you know they weren't real baseball games Yes we we recreated them from the wire well I can't thank and thank you and it was enough Okay we have to go Mr. President thank you very much for the call and have a have a wonderful holiday I have time commitments here and I'm sure you do too so thank you again All right congratulations and goodbye Thank you sir President Ronald Reagan joining us telephonically from Washington DC or was that Camp David I don't know It privileged nonetheless

I still have a dream Oh it's no dream it's Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday on newest national holiday and whether you're celebrating with a march on Washington Or just a march to the refrigerator for a midday snack there's no better way to celebrate than with lunch and meats from the famous farmer For though this new is to holidays celebrate the struggle for freedom no one knows better than the famous farmer the value of freedom of choice The freedom to choose for example brown swagger, livis sausage or new lunch and patties with specks of pork fat sprinkled right in Whichever lunch and delight you choose you'll be partaking of delicious smoke hearty flavor worthy of the Nobel meat prize Because only the famous farmer brings his flavors and porkers out to Southern California live And dresses and fresh locally at peak of smoke hearty goodness then he slices the carcasses up slowly the old time western way So if you have a dream of a king birthday sandwich brim full of processed pig goodness it's no dream at all

It's your very civil right compliments of the famous farmer Freedom and justice I have a dream He's out to Southern Breakfast with the brains a simulated high level early morning discussion among the great thinkers of the ages Here is your moderator and an actual great thinker Dr. Carl Sagan

What is the nature of men are we good we evil are we some mysterious ill-defined and unpredictable mixture of the two Well it's a question that's vexed me ever since I learned to write paperbacks and joining me this morning are some highly interesting thinkers of all ages For mentioned Greece comes our good friend Socrates good morning to you sir Thank you Carl I do hope nobody will be offended if I don't drink the coffee But after my experience you do learn to be careful Of course try the marble cake and speaking of cake please welcome Marie and Twinnett Good morning Carl Good morning to you and my compliments on either the hairdo or the hat Merci Monsieur

And to add a tonic note to the proceedings please welcome the legendary 20th century monster Mr. Adolf Hitler So laughing at me I don't think they are sir and of course speaking of laughter welcome our anchor man on the panel And the man who got our program notes speed printed at cost Mr. Steve Allen It's very infectious Socrates perhaps you'd like to kick off I'm sorry to start off our discussion of man is he Or she I insist on that well taken is he or she good or evil Well now the is the question then whether he or she is evil or whether he parenthesis or she clothes parenthesis is good or evil or what I should like to go back a step if I may very well Mr. Hitler what do we mean by if here no well you see he's laughing at me

I think he's laughing with you Socrates what do we mean by evil Let me respond if I may with another question is evil the same is wrong Where if is it okay if I answer I think the question is open to the panel Where I'd say the answer is no after all with two deference to Mr. Allen it might be wrong to put crap like mocha mix in your coffee but it isn't evil You know speaking of crap people somehow got the impression that I want said of the peasants let the meat cake But of course I never said any such thing Really did you say anything I was talking to the palace baker and he was telling me that the city was experiencing a drastic shortage of cross arson Brioche I simply said let the meat crepes and the whole thing got blown way out of proportion

That's why I believed in action They can't misquote you if you smash Poland Ah but Mr. Hitler what was your comp except a lot of words Jack's butchered the hair out of my copy you should have read the original manuscript then you would have seen your evil Mr. Sagan not this namby pefford it was put out under my name That brings us back to topic a very neatly Mr. Hitler to wit and I think for the sake of argument we can concede that the original was far nastier I thank you But was it so as a matter of choice or by the very nature of man was it inevitably an evil book Nature of man or woman May it may it not have been in fact a mass of choice which itself given the nature of man was inevitable Oh woman precisely it no not precisely I can't stand this it's so so so middle class and polite

Well speaking only from personal experience I hope it wasn't something he drank Socrates you're not only a wise but a very special man And what a dramatic as well as dramatized way of bringing our first breakfast to an end Thank you Socrates Marie Antoinette Steve Allen and somewhere out in the wings or the universe at O'Fifler Next week join me for Wavel's renteros with the great philosopher Emanuel Kant The always lovely physicist Marie Curie the great composer Bach and Louis Nye for a discussion of concepts of Godhead Our next breakfast with the brains

Time now for Harry Sheeran's show business diary Sheeran's show business diary is protected by all applique of a laws Hello I'm Jack Belletti Hello I'm Jack Belletti of the motion picture association the people who make you your movies

I'm speaking to you because this week the Supreme Court made his decision in the so-called beta max case A lot of people are wondering what effect that decision will have on the entertainment future of the American people That's why we decided to prepare the following simile to document the day the movie stopped I hope it scares the hell out of you The day the movies stopped an actual case fiction Our story opens in the North Hollywood offices of consolidated international pictures a major motion picture studio

Two midgets walk down the sidewalk absorbing the stunning news of their sudden unemployment What are you going to do maybe go back to the circus a few feet away inside a modest stucco bungalow A key consolidated executive sits at his desk a worried frown punctuates his intelligent features Hilda guard who's waiting to see me well there were a couple of writers here with an eleven o'clock appointment But one of them saw the story in our local trade paper about the beta max decision Oh not again doesn't anybody want to create tomorrow's hit movies anymore? I don't know sir I just don't know Okay Hilda guard I guess I'll go to lunch early am I meeting anyone? Well that famous producer George Spielberg was supposed to have lunch with you but Well his secretary called and said he's decided to start writing novels instead

She said he told her people can't videotape books I see you know I really don't feel too hungry anyway Maybe I'll just go home Later that same day at one of Hollywood's fine restaurants Good afternoon la bought a reservation just a moment let me look in my what's the use? I don't have to look yes you can come at 130 or any other time no you don't really need a reservation anymore Do you have our card?

Would your friends like some fine then we'll be seeing you at you you won't be coming Studio closing down full time on ice shows mon jule my god I don't think we'll be needing them today But the chain of tragic circumstances doesn't stop there Two days later on the rocky shore of New England a lobsterman sits in the living room of his cabin watching television Well this is just great I wonder what's wrong with the TV Dad what are you doing home this time of year?

Hello son the fleet closed down for a while no customers what I can't figure out is why the dang TV has these stupid bars on the screen You know somebody at school today said there weren't going to be any new shows this season I wonder why Well let's see what's down at the bees whoplex sorry theaters one and two closed that's real weird dad what's it theater three? A festival of old movies and black and white and monosound wow could rather do homework me to son me to Meanwhile at a large county hospital in a changing neighborhood near Hollywood Keith came the handsome hero of the star warp films Is at the bedside of a young shut in

Gee thanks Mr. Cane this mini shows the interstellar walkie hospital just about completes my collection Don't mention it Nathan Where's the next though warp that you're gonna come out Mr. Cane? Well I still be alive Nathan I don't know how to tell you this I'm not gonna be alive It's worse than that there aren't going to be anymore star warp movies so many people have been taping them that we create of artists we can't afford to make anymore But I thought you told me you get a man down as a picture Not anymore Nathan not anymore Some weeks later aboard the aircraft carrier USS Cincinnati the commander is awakened in the middle of the night by a call from an alarmed officer on the flight deck

For God's sake lieutenant what could be so important that you have to call it three in the morning I'm sorry commander I'm afraid some of our missiles have been launched Launched? Where? When by whom? Targeting unclear this time sir I think it was some of the men on the night watch It appears that the boredom finally got to them sir Damn I told you this would happen if we couldn't keep the men entertained with new motion pictures I told you rerunning old super balls over and over again would come to know good didn't I lieutenant Yes sir what do we do now sir? I think we pray lieutenant I think we pray This is Jack Valendi again is it all seem a little far fetched?

Well so did World War II at the beginning The French supply of film entertainment has come to be as essential to the free world as oil or food Today while you're still petrified why not write to your congressman as senator and urge them to repeal the Supreme Court decision So we can all live to not see the day the day the movie stopped Thank you and see you at the movies You are the new cough syrup achievers you are the movers the shakers the jitterers to fall down on your face Because only cough syrup gives you the serenity to dream it and the confusion to dream you've done it Like Jane Curtin of the original Saturday Night Live says Good evening I'm Jane Curtin here now the news are top story tonight

Sponsored by the National Covser of Association because you don't need a cup for a buzz just a spoon Super Sunday around the world Here in Reykjavík the natives tie gilling colored strips of fur and ribbon to the street lamps that illuminate the long night time winter each super Sunday Exchanges of small gifts of meat or fish pies are commonplace In the evening children troop through the frozen streets throwing candy into trash can

The day climaxes at three the next morning when lines at Finnish dialis sport are jammed with colors anxious to know the final score And then to bed for in Finland the day after super Sunday is Wilga Fjorsk or a normal working day This is Bill Malone in Finland In my fellow Americans earlier this week I gave what the news media liked to call a major foreign policy address although I'd like to think that all my speeches are major Today discuss it in the sense that I'll talk about it and hopefully you'll listen. In that speech I said America is safer now than she or he was three years ago

Some of the opposition party and the freeze friends scoffed at that well let's look at some of the facts The point of our arms build up of course is to strengthen the American deterrent now that means we're increasing the number and quantity of weapons whose only purpose is to deter the Russians from attacking us These are fearful weapons nuclear bombs and warheads Weapons that we don't ever want to use and as I say we have proposed and continue to propose a substantial increase in these weapons that we don't want to use in the hope that eventually we'll be able to negotiate a substantial reduction in their numbers But let's look at the other side of the picture. We have also engaged in a steady if unspectacular reduction in the number of weapons we do want to use such as feel ready rifles and combat conditioned aircraft And it's these weapons that we hope to increase as a result of arms control negotiations

Our eventual goal is to have a stock pile of weapons we don't want to employ and to have destroyed or disabled the ones we do pending significant negotiations on arms control So when I say we're safer today than we were three years ago I think you'll agree that there's some method to our plan Now do a somewhat more pleasant subject. As you probably know last week my Commission on Latin America delivered its recommendations One of the things these distinguished Americans concluded was that we should significantly increase our aid to the embattled near democracy of El Salvador while continuing to insist on a voluntary basis that human rights violations by that government be reduced to an acceptable level Well, despite the carping of self-appointed spokesmen for self-styled civil rights so-called organizations There is proof that this approach toward volunteerism in international human rights is equally as productive as is our call for volunteerism to deal with domestic social needs

For example, by working quietly and cooperatively with the South African government we have already been able to persuade them to bring the rights and privileges of their black population in line with those of our own black people just before the Civil War On this point let me read to you something that an eight-year-old little girl wrote to me She was already dead for two weeks from some sort of infection when she wrote this, but her words and the explanation of them that I'll give afterwards speak for themselves She wrote to me, dear Mr. President, my daddy is one of the American advisors in Honduras I pray every night that God keeps him safe and strong and that the invasion of Nicaragua goes off without, well, and there she just gives into the ravages of her disease But the point remains the Kissinger Commission spent days investigating the Central American situation and when they say $8 billion is a small price to pay to keep our friends in Mexico from learning to speak Spanish with a Cuban accent

Well, I'd say let's go with the people who've gotten us this far Finally, later today a historic football game will be played in Tampa, Florida Since each team represents one of my hometowns, a lot of people have been curious about which team I'd support Well, I've got some good news for you The Commission I appointed to examine this situation has pledged itself to deliver their report no later than one hour before kickoff time Hopefully, after consulting with the full range of my advisors, I'll be in a position to comment on their recommendations by late tomorrow evening I hope to speak with you at that time Until then, thanks for listening

Getting close to the end of the voice of America for today, the big game is just moments away Actually, it's hours away, but you know what I mean? And I think regular listeners know that that means it's time for our NewsMaker call And this week, what a treat to make a NewsMaker call to an old friend, a good friend And a man who's gotten some good news for the week, we're calling in out in Beverly Hills, California, Mr. Alan Thicc Danny, do we have the connection? Okay, let's just try it Hello, Alan, you're on the air Alan? Can you hear me? Hello, Alan, you're on the air of the Voice of America Alan? Hello? Hello, hello Hi, Alan, this is Harry Scherer at the Voice of America, how are you doing? Hey, I'm great That's good If you're very in an up-mood glories here helping me in a new song, we're just writing here in the studio Which I have in my own house

Right, please say a little more It's a good show or we might save it, but we're very, very happy to be renewed And it's good news for I think for all of us For fans Right Well, a lot of the people who work for someone we've had to let go because we don't have the money that we used to But I think it's a very up-period in show business generally, we're happy to be part of it And it's good to be alive Well, it's good to hear you being alive, Alan You kind of anticipated what I was going to ask, but any plans for the new series as I guess I should mention to people who haven't heard the news that the thick of the night was renewed this week That is the news that prompts this newsmaker call that they've picked up the show for another run of what is it? 21 weeks or 21 shows or what was it? It's a whole new run of 26 weeks 26 It shows once a day, just like the big boys do, which isn't an interesting change from what we've been doing Right And congratulations, Alan

Is first specific plans go? I'm not certain whether I'm going to be doing a monologue every night I'm going to definitely work on having one of the things that I didn't think worked so well The first time around was I didn't necessarily have an attitude in my mind when I was interviewing the guests Not necessarily Interesting One of the things that I learned from working with Norman Lear over the years is that it's very, very important when you go out there to have something on your mind And so we're going to be working on that and we're working on this song right now Do you think we could hear some of the, I mean, I know it's in a very early stage, but could we just, we're very short on time anyway Could we just hear a little bit of it? Well, okay, sure Really? You want to start the machine? Here we go It's on the sequencer, so we don't have to Uh-huh You're giving me new life This is Alan's sick, I don't really like this This is like I had a sick and wise

News may be drum Still here Right New new life Because I have new life I don't have the lyric for that Right And let's see the bridge goes No, wait There we go No, is it? It's weird Well, Alan? Hello New life Hello, Alan New life New life It's a thrill Baby's giving me new life Okay, you can't hear me Right Uh-huh Right Alan, thank you so much for being our newsmaker Callie, today we do have to scamper, and uh, we'll talk to you soon Congratulations once again, Alan's sick on our newsmaker line, ladies and gentlemen Hello Now, live from Tampa Bay, Sydney, in Tampa, Florida

This is the voice of America Hello, Americans, I'm Paul Harvey And this is the testing time We are being tested, you know, you and I individually and collectively The test isn't going to be all fun or all easy But if you'll hear me out, I think you'll agree You wouldn't want it any other way Such a little while ago, we sat around in our councils of men chewing our fingernails Up past the elbow, worrying about the hideous force, which man had lost on the world when he unharnessed the atom Now, looking back, we can see that the nuclear weapon was a disguised blessing We're outnumbered by our potential enemies, 7 to 1, war with bay, and that's we couldn't win The big bomb was the equalizer, which cut the limitless hordes of Asia down to our size This awesome weapon stood between us and slavery And now we can see that an all-wise almighty entrusted this hideous instrument to our tiny fraction of the Earth's population first

Not for our destruction, but for our deliverance When are you going to grow up? I think somebody was always asking me that My mother, my father, my teachers They were asking me that when I was in first grade When are you going to grow up? I kept right on asking me Even when I got out of high school And all of a sudden they just stopped You know what I mean? They just see me in that uniform, you know, and they'd say, how about that? He's a Marine Like I didn't have to say anything Then they'd want to know how rough it was and how long did it take And when I'd tell them nine weeks, they'd look at me as if I'd gone through hell or something And a way I did I mean, Marine Bootcamp has got to be the toughest nine weeks a guy ever had

But if you got what it takes, you can't miss Bonanza Manning Now ladies and gentlemen, time for an interesting message from your office of civil defense Web County, Texas is quite a bit off the beaten path But a good many people are beating a path there anyway School board members, PTA officials, architects, and engineers All coming from hundreds of miles around to look at a brand new kind of school It's the United Consolidated High School of Web County An uncommonly handsome new building But it has more than good looks to make it unique The people there not only wanted a good school for their children They also wanted it to give them every protection possible So they told the architect to design a school that had everything First-rate educational facilities for 500 students And a fallout shelter with capacity to shield the entire community So instead of the conventional glass box design

He drew up something different, a protected school A solid, handsomely constructed building Where most of the classrooms are safely shielded underground He used light colored tiles, bright furniture, and mirrors at every turn to create an attractive atmosphere And while some parents had their doubts at first, today they're all delighted Lack of dust is lowered maintenance cost Air conditioning has resulted in greater comfort and better class attendance And the underground classrooms have actually created a better learning situation As one teacher said, you don't know how nice it is to have 25 kids looking at you and learning Instead of staring out the window If your community is planning a new school of its own You'd probably like to know just how Webb County did it But you don't have to travel all the way to Laredo to see it The Office of Civil Defense has made an interesting 20-minute motion picture about it It's titled, Texas has a brand new school And it's available on free loan for showings to any interested civic group on a nonprofit no admission charge basis If you'd like to see the film, your local civil defense director will be glad to tell you where to direct your request

That title again, so you won't forget it, Texas has a brand new school Well, now let's get back to music For three years now since my discharge from the Army, I have prospered little I fear for my family, for the future Up and down the land, we linger in a depression Our money is scarce. Most of our state currencies are an inflated and bitter joke Newspaper printers accept subscriptions in Salt Pork North Carolina businessmen bought it for whiskey, Virginians for tobacco Our national coinage is an illusion A maze of nine pence, bits and half bits Pisterines, pickae umes and fips Where will all this end? I'm Mike Waters. Welcome to 60 Seconds There are currently two lawsuits pending against this reporter and CBS News alleging libel

Two lawsuits in as many months What kind of people are filing these suits? Legal actions that require busy reporters to squander hours and draw out court proceedings 60 Seconds decided to find out So we went to the home of Dan Bert, the lawyer for General William Westmoreland To be sure we'd find him in and a week crowded with court appearances We visited his home at 4.30 last Saturday morning And here's what we found Let's wait for that car to go by in the knock Are you ruling? Hello Mr. Bert Mr. Bert Who is it? Hello Who is it? Mr. Bert, Mike Waters from 60 Seconds Get out of here. It's 4.30 in the morning And Mr. Bert, I thought this would be a time we could talk

I don't care what you're doing here. You want to see me come during office hours? Well Mr. Bert during office hours you're in court, aren't you? You look like property before I file you with a suit so fast your head's going to spin Get out of here! Keep rolling Mr. Bert Do we have this? So a lawyer who isn't too busy to sue reporters does seem to be too busy to talk to them I am Mike Waters. We'll be back soon with another edition of 60 Seconds Good evening. I'm Edwin Newman speaking from Kansas City Tonight the League of Women Bowlers is proud to present the first in a series of programs entitled After Thoughts. Addenda to issues raised by the presidential debate With tonight's After Thought, here is President Ronald Reagan Mr. President

Well thank you Ed and I hope you don't have to cut me off this time No seriously. I just wanted to clarify what I was saying Sunday night about the letter that I put in that time capsule that was And to be opened up by people a hundred years from now as I was saying I found it impossible really to be able to write the many things that discussed our problems of this period of time Because of course they would know about the problems But so in as things turned out I just ended up writing best regards Ronald Reagan and I enclosed a eight by ten photograph too So that was just a wrap up that thought And on the subject of Armageddon I think some people got the wrong idea In the question that Mr. Calb so wonderfully asked Sunday night And I started talking about how of course theologians disagree

Is to when the final battle might come and might come the day after tomorrow Or a thousand years from now and I didn't mean to suggest in that answer That we are not prepared for Armageddon Just that we're not preparing for it but when it comes we want to be prepared for it And so if the biblical prophecy happens to come true We not only have a stockpile of nuclear weapons that we want to be second to none But of course we have great emergency supplies of loaves and fishes And whatever else is indicated in revelations Of course people would have to check with the theologians and the defense department People as to exactly what's being kept back there But we are ready for Armageddon should it come And of course that doesn't mean in any way that we expect it to very soon But we wouldn't be at all surprised to see Cap Weinberger and George Schultz

And even outhead floating up in the sky come rapture time And I want to thank the League of Women Boulders for allowing me to come here and give these few after thoughts tonight Thank you Mr. President Tomorrow night Walter Mondale will be here and as after thought we'll consist of saying the word strength 12 more times Until then for the League of Women Boulders I'm Edwin Newman saying don't say finalize when you can say finish Good night One of the treat they still haven't fixed the chair maybe the next fun drive that we'll do that of course One of the treats of doing a program as literally electric if not electronic if you will as the show that I'm doing in New York or the show that is doing me depending on your point of view Is the ability to make and hopefully to keep certain kinds of new friends that one would otherwise never ever ever encounter in just a normal course of events And one such is the host was the host of last last weeks program the Reverend Jesse Jackson the Reverend the ready

And I just happened to mention when we were exchanging good night hugs that I was going to be doing this program tonight And he said well I'll call you from wherever I am along the campaign trail and I thought sure you know busy man A lot of rainbow work to be done but alone behold he is on the line now checking in with us JJ as I call him It is a thrill and a kick in the head to have you on the line welcome As I told you last night the rainbow has both M and FM man and we must to shoot a rainbow to where the people are And if they are on the FM band that's where we must be just to play and talk to you Well it's a pleasure to talk to you Jesse Reverend or JJ whatever You know there were some comments in the press including here in the LA Times that perhaps the show took it a little easy with you Didn't throw you enough hard balls as it were

So let me just ask you in that line of thought a question that occurs to me which is that Whereas during the rehearsals you didn't choose to say the words damn or hell when they occurred in the scripts But a couple of the young ladies work at the show one on Cameron one off or behind the scenes So that you made some old suggestions that you might show them around New York City or something like that Well what would be your comment on what some people might view as a discrepancy there Well some people might not see that the rainbow has a job to do and does that job where it must do it But to directly ask your question Harry you may recall the the speech that I made last summer at the Democratic Convention In which I said addressing the Hamilton issue I said there have been times when my great turn into a raisin

And my job bail failed a resident you may recall that yes I do this is kind of a similar situation Help me with this I'm not not quite clear is this a situation where your grape was about to turn into a raisin Not exactly Harry more probably it was a situation where I was afraid that my cucumber might turn into a pickle Well let's understandable I think we've all known that fear Reverend there are less than two weeks in the presidential campaign what effect do you feel that being on a comedy show so called for 90 minutes last Saturday night is going to have on the campaign or on your reputation and your ability to function as a political person in the weeks and months ahead Well let me tell you something right now Harry this is what we're involved in is much longer range than this campaign or this election I've already had talks with Brandon Turner's health about becoming a seller regular on pocket Brewster

I would be the uncle to drop by from time to time This is a kind of thing that would never happen if the rainbow coalition did not attempt to take in and take on the collaboration of network television and all its facets So we will be campaigning we will be talking about the issues and hopefully dropping by and teaching pocket Brewster some lessons about life or about dating or whatever We have not looked at the script yet That's in the office also there's some more we talk I'm my people in Jim Ballucious people getting together I feel that down the line there will be great great flowing the benefits of consequences of my job bail going to resonate some more I'll tell you that

I certainly hope so Jesse Jackson we're running out of time. Thank you so much for calling in from where are you calling in from I'm still in Kansas City I couldn't get a flat out after the debate Well good luck with that then and good luck with the whole rainbow thing and maybe I'll see you next time you're in high me town I'll buy you some good filter fish Okay, it's a deal J.J. Thank you so much. Bye-bye the beach